Carolina YMCA Swim League

Meeting Minutes 3/01/09
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MINUTES FROM THE CAROLINA YMCA SWIM LEAGUE

MARCH 1, 2008

Teams Represented:, Anderson , Beaufort, Berkeley , Cherokee, Columbia , Greenwood , Hartsville, Hendersonville , Laurens, Newberry, Pickens,  Rock Hill , Sumter , and Union

Teams Without Representation:   Chester , Florence , Orangeburg, and Summerville

The meeting was called to order by President Tom Karel.at 2:10 PM. President

Voting rites were established by team.

OFFICERS REPORT

Presidents Report – President Karel noted it has been a busy season, it began at last summer’s championship. He addressed the new breast stroke rule, the new rule states that as soon as hands start a downward or side motion the pull begins. USA Swimming published a new rule concerning hy-tek suits. This new rule will take effect May 15, 2009 . A copy of the rule is attached to these minutes.

Vice Presidents Report – No report.

Treasurers Report No Report

Sectary Report -  Secretary Dena Goeckner reported out of the 22 regular seasons meets three including the championship has not been closed out . Out of the 22 meets,  5 meets received fines totaling 500.00, the two that are not closed out may also result in fines. Out of the 22 meets five of them were held without Y officials, four of them were hosted by the same team. Three records came from these meets. Dena asked the this rule be reviewed in new business.

Member at Large Mario Francisco Sobrinho thanked President Karel for doing a great job. He wasn’t happy with the lack of officials at the championship. He didn’t like the fact there were no side runners, he felt the turns received too much attention.

Webmaster – Don Kier said results came fairly decent this season. The teams who hosted on Feb 7th did an excellent job of sending him results. He also is trying to update the E-mail list, he sent out an E-mail asking teams to check addresses. If you haven’t responded back, please do so. The web page highest usage is in July and February

Head Official – Margie Orr reported league provided two official classes this season, one in Pickens and one in Newberry. Margie addressed Mario’s issue with lack of officials at championship, she pointed out that although several individual attended the classes, they were not eligible to officiate at championship until they complete their apprenticeship. There was no to walk the side of the pool and cover all the lanes, you just can’t see them. Margie asked teams send her a list of their officials and their expiration dates. If you have a Y official who would like to become a USA swimming official, she has information on how to do this. 

NEW BUSINESS

President Karel announced our region representative Kiki Farmer has resigned. Shelley Remaly with CYAC in Virginia will take over next week. Kiki has promised to have all region coaches cards out by the end of the week. Tom said time standards will be tightened up next year for the region meet. He will report back to us after the upcoming region meet.

The lack of officials at 5 of the league meets was discussed. Many comments concerning this. Pam Lister asked the executive committee address this with the team that hosted four meets without officials.

Webmaster Don Kier said he would like to update the look of the website. Possibly have a contest with the swimmers designing a new look. Award it at the championship to the best design and award the swimmer with $100.00.

Lynn Williams reported she was chastised by an assistant coach after the meet for her presentation of the awards. Lynn asked the league set a policy of how the awards should be presented.

Lynn also said several coaches were not happy about not receiving dq slips at the meet, a dq log was kept instead and is available to pick up today.

 

PROPOSED RULE CHANGES:

Rick Simonds - Beaufort

Proposed: Adapt same age group scoring and age group events (for yards) as the USS swimming standards.
Reason: Being more fair across the board for all teams and swimmers. Pulled by author.

Proposed: Allow up to four swimmers from unscheduled teams to attend any seasonal CYSL meet with the permission of the host team meet director.
Reason: To allow swimmers from all teams to attain the two meet (state meet requirement) due to unexpected, regular scheduled meet absences.

Lynn Williams seconded the motion. Tom Karel noted the executive committee has the authority to allow a swimmer to attend a meet they were not scheduled for, in the past the committee has always been sympathetic to the swimmer. The question was called for there were 4 in favor and 8 opposed. The motion failed.

Pam Lister - Newberry

Coaches (Section created 3-4-07 )

Current Rule 3 – E:  The head coach must attend a mandatory league coaches training/meet director training prior to their first season. If a coach joins in the middle of the season, they must attend prior the start of the next season. If there is no turnover of the head coach, the team will be exempt. Failure to comply with training will prevent teams from attending league meetings.  (Effective 3-4-07 )

Proposed: Omit this rule.

 

Reason:  Training not being held due to lack of available weekends. It is recommended that those coaches who need training in meet management and Hyteck software find a mentor from within the league.

Tom Schmidt seconded the motion. Lynn Williams stated it is a great idea in theory, but there is no time to hold the class. The question was called 13 in favor, 0 opposed and 1 abstention. Motion passed.

End of Season Championship  Rule 7 – I

Current:  The league will provide a 3 x 6 foot (banner size effective February 29, 2004 ) banner to the winning team. (Established 7-19-03 )

Proposed:  The league will provide the first, second and third place team trophies along with a 3 x 6 foot (banner size effective February 29, 2004 ) banner to the winning team. (Effective 3-1-09 )

Reason:  The league has funds available and it will relieve some financial burden from host team.

Tom Schmidt seconded the motion. Discussion followed, Lynn Williams suggested Rock Hill purchase the trophies for each meet. The question was called for 11 were in favor, 1 opposed and 1 abstention.

Proposed Change to Rule 7 – G (if passes re-letter G – S):  Relays for the championship meet will be age group specific like individual events, 9 – 10, 11 – 12, 13 – 14, 15 – 18, 19  - 21 with the exception of the 8 & under relays.

Reason:   Relays should follow same age guidelines as individual events for championship meet.

Mario seconded the motion. Lynn Williams proposed a friendly amendment. She proposed that at least one swimmer from the respective age groups must be in the relay. Pam  declined the friendly amendment. Several coaches mentioned that they could not have had relays at the meet if the current age groups were eliminated. It was noted that several teams took advantage of this at the championship. Larry McMahan again asked Pam if she would accept the friendly amendment Lynn proposed earlier, and she said she would accept it. Example the 12 and under relay must have at least on swimmer in the 11 – 12 age group. The question was called for 12 in favor 1 opposed. The motion passed.  (Effective 3-1-09 )  

Dena Goeckner – Newberry

Coaches (Section created 3-4-07 )

Rule 3 –F Current:  Coaches must send a copy of their current credentials to the league secretary one week prior to their first meet. The league secretary will maintain a list of current coaches. The following credentials are required:  

§         CPR

§         First Aid

§         Lifeguarding or Safety Training for Swim Coaches

§         Principals of YMCA Competitive Swimming and Diving  

Coaches will still be required to show their cards at all meets. Coaches on the list maintained by the league secretary who fail to show their cards at any meet will be charged a $25.00 fee.  (Established 3-1-08 )

Proposed: Eliminate

Reason:  The region maintains a list of the coaches credentials, this is duplicate work for the league secretary. Coaches are required to have credentials to be allowed on the deck.

Don Kier seconded the motion. The question was called for, the motion passed unanimously. 

Larry McMahan – Pickens

Swimmers

Current Rule 3 –H:  In the interest of providing competition any swimmer may be moved up to the next highest age for all his/her individual events but by doing so that swimmer must remain in the higher ate group for the remainder of the season throughout the end of season championship meet.  The exception is 6 & under swimmers who are eligible to compete 8 & Under relays.

Proposed:  That the age up of a swimmer has to be done in a regular meet during the season.  Can’t wait till the championship meet to age up just to acquire points.  Also that for a Relay team a team must have at least one swimmer in that age group.  Example 21 and under relay team must have at least one swimmer that is in the age group of 19 to 21.  Not allowed to put (4) 10 year olds in the 21 and under relay.

Tom Schmidt seconded the motion. Discussion followed. Larry accepted a friendly amendment no swimups at the end of the season championship. The question was called for 15 in favor, none opposed. He also accepted that relays will be swam as the end of season championship. The question was called and it passed 13 to nothing. (Effective 3-1-09 )  

The following rules/changed was purposed from the floor.

Lynn Williams asked the executive committee set a protocol for the championship meet. Brian Heaton seconded the motion. The question was called for 6 in favor, 4 opposed, 4 abstentions. The motion failed.

Jeff Mead proposed the league add a high point girls and boys plaque for championship. Lynn seconded the motion. The question was called for 12 in favor, 2 abstentions. The motion passed. (Effective 3-1-09 )

Rule 6B – change to :

The suggested minimum number of officials are: 1 Starter, 1 Referee, 2 Start & Turn judges, 2 Stroke judges, 2 timers per lane, score keeper, runner, and two finishes judges on both sides of the pool unless electronic timing is used  Host teams are responsible for all necessary personnel to conduct meets. (Effective 3-5-06 ) Coaches will only be permitted to officiate at a meet if they are not acting as a coach. (Effective 3-4-07 ) If a meet is hosted without a minimum of two YMCA and or USA officials the meet will count toward the visiting team two meets for championship, the host team will not be allowed to count this meet. Prior to sending results, specifically the meet manager backup to the league secretary, and sending results back to the attending trams, the host team must delete their team from the database, and the visiting teams results will all be marked DQ. The host team will be fined $100.00 for the first meet, each subsequent meet the fines will be doubled accumulative. (Effective 3-1-09 )  

Lynn Williams proposed the following order for the championship award ceremony:

Volunteer of the year, senior awards, individual high point age awards, announcement of top five women’s teams, awarding the top women’s team with plaque, announcement of top five men’s team, awarding the top men’s team with a plaque, overall of team placement from the bottom up announce the top five scores and award top three trophies.

Mario seconded the motion, the question was called form. 6 in favor, 6 opposed, 1 abstention. The motion failed.

SUMMER SCHEDULE

No one has bid on the summer championship. Greenwood is meeting with parents to see if they are interested, Newberry said they could host if the meet went back to Friday and Saturday. It was pointed out our rules do not allow this. Tom Schmidt suggested the executive committee be empowered to make the best possible days and location for the championship, Brian Heaton moved to accept the motion, Taylor Gibbs seconded the motion which passed.

The 2009 summer schedule was established.

Being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.

 

Respectfully submitted,

Dena Goeckner
CYSL Secretary

 

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